The reporting behind the Outlaw Ocean Podcast

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Misha Collins and Emily Farallon invited Ian Urbina to talk about the lawless oceans, where piracy, slavery, and violence thrive largely out of sight. They discussed what it’s like to investigate crimes at sea, the risks of telling these stories, and how each person can meaningfully contribute to ending these injustices. The hosts called the Outlaw Ocean Podcast one of the best podcasts they’ve heard in the past decade.

December 16, 2025InterviewUnited States

With Ian Urbina